Rumour Mongering: Pato, Zapata, and Stewart Downing’s Scarf

By: Noel | June 21st, 2011
   
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If nature abhors a vacuum, then the transfer window abhors a lack of batshit insane rumours to sell papers and drive hits with. And with many of Liverpool’s supposed targets cooling down after the more dubious corners of the intertubes had pushed them for weeks only for it to amount to nothing, a new round of insanity was called for.

First off, no, Charlie Adam hasn’t signed yet, but with the In the Knows switching to a two-day schedule to save their embarrassment there’s probably talk of him signing on Thursday going on right this second. With that out of the way, it’s on to the crazy, and so why not start with the big money crazy…

Alexandre Pato

He’s 21. He’s a regular for Brazil. He’s scored 50 goals in just over a century of games with AC Milan already. They paid €24M for him just before his 18th birthday. He’s a striker but can also play wide. And he’s in a relationship with club owner Silvio Berlusconi’s daughter.

So when a few people on Twitter claim that some source somewhere in the Italian media is claiming Liverpool have swooped in with €35M and Alberto Aquilani, and that moreover they’re on the verge of securing his services, the only reasonable response is to roll your eyes. Then acknowledge that it’s nice to have the batshit crazy rumours involve genuinely world-class payers and not scrubs from the second division in Norway. But that that doesn’t make it any less crazypants.

That isn’t how a lot of people are reacting to it.

Charles N’Zogbia

In a day or two, there’s a good chance that people who make a living repeating unsourced insanity will be reporting the Pato rumours like they’re fact, but in the meantime everybody will have to make do with the more reasonable sounding but no more accurate N’Zogbia rumours. On Sunday, a Twitter account of a supposed agent with nobody to corroborate him and no history of even being a right one time in a hundred In the Know said he had big Liverpool transfer news to announce in a hour. A few minutes before that deadline, he changed his name and bio to tie himself to a London agency, attempting to imply legitimacy. He then said that Charles N’Zogbia was coming to Liverpool from Wigan, that the fee and personal terms were all agreed, and that moreover the player was undergoing a medical at that moment.

Soon afterwards he went back to his original Twitter name while journalists hit up their contacts at Wigan and Liverpool only to be met with puzzlement. Then 24 hours passed with absolutely nothing happening—no leaks from other sources, no news from the clubs, no nothing. It was a wind-up. Somebody seeking attention or followers. And clearly there was nothing to it.

At which point—over a day later—certain dubious newspapers and websites began to present this fake agent’s fake revelation as meaningful transfer news. So the next time you see a story on N’Zogbia, well, now you know what the “source” of it is. And if you do see such a story on a site like, I don’t know, maybe CaughtOffside? Well you might want to stop believing any word they ever have or will say. Like the part where tomorrow they’ll tell you that Pato’s in the bag.

Cristian Zapata

You want attention seekers spreading rumours for their own ends? You want crazy? N’Zogbia and Pato aren’t enough? Well, over the weekend Zapata rumours hit maximum overdrive after Cristian Zapata himself (right) came out in a press conference and said he was probably going to Liverpool over the summer. A few days later and those rumours are crashing into the cruel wall of reality as his agent of all people steps in to dismiss them as unlikely. They weren’t wearing their seat-belts. Which probably means there’s a lesson in there somewhere for the kids.

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It all kicked off when Zapata talked about interest from Bayern Munich and Liverpool, with Liverpool being the most likely destination. His wording and the vagaries of translation left it unclear if he meant that a deal was immanent or if it was only that Liverpool was showing more interest than any other suitor, but either way he seemed positive about the idea and had actually said words that were on record and could be read in their context that suggested a strong link existed.

Only later his agent came out and said that though Zapata would like to play in England one day, no big clubs had made any inquiries about his player that would have him thinking about his future. He blamed the distance between South America and Europe for the misunderstanding while everybody else remembered that Zapata had previously talked of non-existent links to Arsenal when he was unhappy with his situation at Udinese.

All of which adds up to a case that’s odd only in that it’s the player who appears to be running around agitating in the press while his agent tells everybody to just calm down.

Stewart Downing

And moving on to another case of a player doing something dumb that fuels transfer speculation, somebody got Stewart Downing to pose with a Liverpool scarf in a bar in Spain while he was with Andy Carroll. That’s the picture up at the top. Whether it means he’s totally coming to Liverpool tomorrow or whether it means he was drunk and having a laugh nobody knows, but it’s caused some entertaining fallout.

Most of that fallout involves Aston Villa releasing a statement that the picture is a fake and that Stewart Downing claims he never posed for it. Except that if it is a bit of Photoshop work, it’s absolutely flawless. Moreover, if you’re going to fake a picture of Andy Carroll and Possible Target X posing with a Liverpool scarf at a bar in Spain, is Stewart Downing really who you spend half a day getting the lighting spot on for?

Dejan Lovren

Moving away from England’s fine shores to the continent—and away from the unending insanity of the transfer window to something supposedly half-way solid and sourced—turns up Dejan Lovren, a 21-year-old Croatian defender who plays for Olympic Lyon. His name has been added to the mix in the wake of Phil Jones going to United and with talk that Scott Dann could end up at any number of other English clubs that aren’t Liverpool, and a number of journalists have come out to say the links are in fact quite solid. How solid those links are remains uncertain, but by most accounts there is something there.

He’s been at Lyon for a season and a half now and has secured a starting role and the number five for them while making eight national team appearances. As a young defender who has recently established himself as a starter on a Champions League qualified side and for his country, and with three years remaining on his contract, it’s hard to imagine he’d be especially cheap. Then again, he’s not English, which has led to rumours not too far away from the financial neighbourhood of three years older, twice internationally capped, and starting for Birmingham City Scott Dann.

Well, there you go. After a brief lull that saw many of Liverpool’s past rumoured targets cool, this has been one of the most bizarre, ridiculous, poorly sourced, and just flat out crazy set of rumours we’ve had to pass along so far in rumour mongering. Which perhaps gives it all a bit of entertainment value. As long as nobody takes the thought of Pato and Zapata and Downing showing up at Melwood tomorrow seriously.


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  • RedDownUnda

    Never mind how many fingers Downing has (they're tassels anyway) check out the girl's eyes - very, very wall-eyed. She's looking at Stu with one and Andy with the other. That Photoshop clone tool needs recalibrating - stat.

  • Goaliekirk1

    The picture of Stewart Downing is not flawless... look how many fingers he has.

  • WTF is wrong with the second division in Norway?

  • tony

    If there is any truth behind this  We need to be looking at seriuos player like Hazard cissoko zapata kalinic alonso Modric neymar mata pato.
    Not some of these bullshit players we are abig club its time we get back to were we belong

  • Gerrard's Boxing Coach

    Good to see that Andy's so enthusiastic about the club.  That's a 10,000-pint smile.  There are a depressingly large number of people puttering around on the internet who don't like to party-- if the performances aren't suffering, drink up, Mr. Carroll.  Lord knows I would.  And do.  If I were a professional footballer, there would be thousands of pictures like this of me posing with supporters at pubs.  Maybe one day, when I shed 15 years and spend eight hours a day running sprints and working on my dribbling skills...

  • Smitty_w

    Off the subject Martin Jol is having another cry that Damien Commolli brought him undone at tottenham. I was on the fence when Commoli joined the club. There was just to much negative press about him. All though it may take a few years to see the full impact he has on the club hes not done much wrong so far at Liverpool. I am interested  to know what you guys around here think of the man is Commolli good for Liverpool or not

  • anon

    Hmmm how many fingers has downing actually got on his left hand....if it's not a fake he's a freak!

  • Russell

    I think the sixth finger on his left hand you're referring to are white tassels from the scarf.  I'm still not convinced it's real, though.  And even if it is real, I don't think it means too much.

  • Nick

    Downing with that well known alchoholic Andy Caroll, what a tragic waste of money ( for both in my opinion)
     
    Nick

  • Mike

    Well we haven't bought Downing, and as far as Andrew goes...If he doesn't make it as a striker for LFC, there's always a place for him as a regular commenter on the offside.

  • Irishkopite

    its the scarf thats the fake

  • matt

    the transfer season could be a sociology course.  first, people make up entirely random ideas of player signings, of course if enough people repeat this it gains some validity within the community (sort of a rumor ponzi scheme if you will, no base but as long as more people get suckered it gains traction).  once these are accepted as fact, deadlines come into play and here is where the true fun starts.  once the transfers are "done and dusted" everyone then gets to say "player X isn't good enough, i thought we wanted bigger targets, in my opinion we should get player Y."  fast forward to the next week when player X hasn't signed, and there is pandemonium from the masses, not that they were idiotic enough to believe the rumour in the first place (back to the ponzi rumor, this is where the initial creator takes the funds and flees to south america), but that the club has "yet again failed to close its signings and the transfer market is going to pass the club by and break all promises by management." 

    rinse, wash, repeat with the all the intensity of a meth-addict with OCD.

    enjoy the silly season ladies and gents!

  • Guest

    This has nothing to do with transfer inanity unfortunately, but the entirety of the Copa America will be broadcast live on YouTube here starting July 1. Just in case there's anyone here who likes to watch live football...

  • Khaine

    Between this and the U17s, there should be enough footy to fuel my addiction through the summer while keeping me off the twitterwagon. Good man yourself

  • Cluke

    look at downings left hand, FAKE....

  • Stevie G (Walton)

    Yes, I have enlarged ten times, the left hand looks normal to me and anyone else with 4 fingers and a thumb. Also that lighting on the side of Downings face and the girl next to him isn't so easy to fake!! Not saying the photo is not a fake but believe me it is a good one if it is because that lighting effect is not so easy to fake

  • Ged

    How can you say that's normal?  there's 2 hands there not one

    If you've enlarged it and it still looks normal then there's no way you're cut out for detective work is there?

  • Ed

    You've cracked the case! Everyone knows left-footed people wear their watches on their right wrist.

  • NOLAred

    Gotta say that I love your transfer rumor breakdowns and from what I've seen this is one of the few sights that handles it rationally. John Henry and KK have stated their intention to not talk about any potential transfer news until the deal is done, therefore any news that is out there originates from players, agents, or opposing clubs...all sources that are horribly unreliable. Hopefully the batshit rumors involving the likes of Pato calms down the crazies for a little bit at least. At least being linked (batshit rumors) with world-class players is a step in the right direction (I guess). Keep up the good work. YNWA

  • Jay Wright

    CaughtOffside is one of the sites, along with Goal.com that has long been added to my list of "Hide Publications" on NewsNow. That list is growing exponentially by the day, and tbh I'm about ready to give up on all but a few trusted sites just to avoid the endless list of 'batshit' rumours and theorists with a deep insight into Dalglish/players/'moneyball'!

  • Russell

    I think what Caughtoffside does is take a rumour of a player going to some club.  Then, they add an extra 2-3 million pounds onto the price of the player, just for kicks.  Then, they find another player that plays for the same team as the first player, and then say there is a double raid.  The finished article headline is as follows:  Liverpool to buy Enrique, Gutierrez, and Barton in TRIPLE raid for 50m.  Beatiful, isn't it?

  • Red2death

    we gotta get pato and zapata and downing and while we're at it might as well get messi too n'zogbia's a good addition with lots of premiership experience and so is dann and we also need aguero 35m and mata 20m sell off half our squad except gerrard and suarez and replace them all  with my team from championship manager cos their stats are so good plus all the players we've been randomly linked with and don't comolli and co look at stats then we can finally beat utd the scum ynwa

  • Guest

    brilliant!

  • Mike

    Paste Mata's face over Downing's... It would make good transfer porn...

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