Rafa Up for Chelsea Challenge, and Other Tuesday Notes

By: Noel | March 5th, 2012
   
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At the time of posting, it’s Tuesday for 99.3% of the world’s population, which means it’s probably fair to call this Tuesday’s news and notes. And for this Tuesday day, night, morning, evening, or afternoon for 99.3% of the world’s population we’ve got Suarez and Rafa and the media to get to, so we might as well get right to it…

* On the Guardian’s Sport Blog, Zonal Marking’s Michael Cox has found himself toying with the idea that Luis Suarez’ drop in form this season has less to do with distractions and demonisation and more to do with the role he’s being asked to play. Or, more precisely, that he’s being asked to at the same time play every role and no specific one for Liverpool in attack:

Suárez’s best role is up for debate—his good form at Ajax came when moving inside from a right-sided position, then with Uruguay he excelled at the Copa América last year when used as the primary striker. Importantly, he seemed to have much more of a defined role in the side, much stricter instructions. At Liverpool his role has varied between playing up front alone, and just behind Andy Carroll. He’s generally been Liverpool’s best attacking player this season—though Craig Bellamy has also played well—but too much of the play is dependent upon him, and he becomes the main man responsible for both creativity and goalscoring. To do two things at once is to do neither, Publilius Syrus once wrote, and Suarez’s six goals are supplemented by a single assist.

Cox points to Suarez’ woeful conversion rate—hovering south of seven percent—but also the fact that, in comparison to most strikers, Suarez himself creates the vast majority of his own chances. He provides his own best service; he’s the one best suited to beat defenders; and with those around him also struggling to put their chances away, he’s often the one left having to score in the end. And that has led to a season filled with situations like Saturday’s when he beat three Arsenal defenders in the box before poking a tame shot towards goal as his balance began to fail from all that had come before.

It’s a situation that finds a timely parallel in Arsenal’s Robin van Persie, whose finishing has become increasingly clinical as he has shifted his focus from being involved in every aspect of the attack to relying on others to do most of the build-up while he worries only about putting the ball in the back of the net. In any case, though, for Suarez to take up a more defined role would likely require those around him to step up, and on the evidence so far this season there’s ample reason for Suarez to think he needs to do it all in attack for Liverpool to have a chance.

* Something recent discussion about Jamie Carragher’s place in the current Liverpool squad has served to remind everyone is that most don’t make it in the highest levels of football without a self-belief that can border on the surreal. And when it comes to ridiculous levels of self-belief in football, it’s hard to beat the belief of every manager thinking they can be the one to survive and thrive at post-Mourinho Chelsea. Despite struggles with ownership that led to rocky endings at both Liverpool and Inter Milan, then, it somewhat surprisingly turns out that Rafa Benitez is amongst those who want to have a go at being Roman Abramovich’s second in command, convinced he can both do the job and also that Liverpool fans would be okay with him managing a rival club:

If they want me to have the best, they can say you can manage a team at the bottom of the table or manage a team at a top of the table and try to win trophies. That is my idea, to have the option of a top side and try to win trophies. If they love me, they will understand.

I have had two or three offers from clubs and one from a national team. I want to win trophies; it’s not just a case of wanting a job and having some money. It has to be something. They have now Roberto Di Matteo in charge, and I have to respect the manager in charge. I have to wait and, if something happens in the future, as a manager with experience in the Champions League, in Spain, and in Italy, I am open to offers.

Perhaps Benitez believes he really can be the one to lead Chelsea to the domestic and European glory Abramovich craves. Perhaps Benitez truly believes that despite the enmity he faced from the London press he’ll be able to win their mind games if given a second chance. Perhaps he truly believes he can overcome a fanbase with largely negative preconceptions of him, a fanbase that dislike him because he managed a club that blocked their path to glory in the past while simultaneously buying into many of the media’s narratives of Benitez as a reckless spender who never understood the English game and eventually lost the plot. And perhaps he truly believes that after a revolving door that spat out Avram Grant, Felipe Scolari, Carlo Ancelotti, and Andre Villas-Boas over five years that have also seen three caretaker managers named in Ray Wilkins, Guus Hiddink, and now Roberto Di Mateo, he is the one who can finally claim the job in something resembling a permanent manner.

Most Liverpool fans do at the very least have a soft spot for the man who won them a fifth European Cup, and most further understand he would like to remain in England and that he never wanted to have to look for a job away from Liverpool. Most understand that a driven football man like Benitez will one day find himself a new job, and that there’s a fair chance it will end up being at a competing club. Beyond a general feeling of unease at the idea of a highly regarded former manager working for a club like Chelsea, though, the real issue for Liverpool fans will likely now be wondering about Bentiez’ sanity if after his experiences at Liverpool and Inter Milan he were to push for a position at Roman Abramovich’s managerial meat grinder. Perhaps to make it in football requires a faintly ridiculous level of self-belief, but even accounting for that, for a man with Benitez’ history it’s difficult to understand his apparent desire to manage Chelsea.

* Finally, if you haven’t gotten in on it yet, this week marks as good a time as any a time to give a listen to the Anfield Wrap’s weekly podcast. Amongst other things, the latest episode digs into one of the messes that has dominated Liverpool coverage of late, talking the media’s responsibility to an honest and fair discussion with Oliver Holt, one of the worst offenders when it came to sensationalising recent issues of race in football with an eye to selling papers and few concerns for journalistic integrity.

We’ll be back later with any breaking news, but in the meantime, while you’re trying to figure out just how crazy you’d have to be to think you had a chance of surviving more than a week as Chelsea’s manager…


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  • Ryan

    So, our American baseball lovers. Anyone have an idea of what Henry and co. will do in their second full season in charge if we don't achieve our CL goals?

  • Tom Foolery

    The only job that could bring him more criticism is the England NT.

    I miss that coy fucker, but let him do his thing somewhere else, let him be underappreciated and ridculed by another set of misguided, misinformed, and miserable supporters. It would be hilarious, probably heart-wrenching too, but he'd have some epic pressers and I just enjoy seeing that man operate in the hot-seat.

  • Togs

    What Rafa back again were you asleep for his
    First spell in charge? The football was terrible defensive shite.
    This return of old Heros does not work when has it worked? Never.
    I would really be upset to see Rafa back another backwards step.
    There has got to be some sane people who read this blog who do not wear Rose tinted Rafa geek glasses. Best of luck to the man but not at Liverpool please.

  • Defensive shite, I've grown weary of defending Rafa against the media narrative that flies orthogonally into the face of reality. Your "defensive shite" scored 77 goals in the Premier League in 2008/09, nearly 100 in all competitions, with a goal differential of +50, both numbers being higher than the champions that season. Yeah, my desire to see Rafa back one day may be based more in romanticism than reality, but do not talk shit about Rafa when the reality is the exact diametric opposite of what Sky would have you believe.

  • Luis Suarez Dentist

    No I wasn't asleep during Rafa's first spell in charge.
     
    1. I wasn't asleep when Rafa managed a mediocre team in his first season to the Champions League final and then beat a Milan team after coming from 3 goals down in the greatest European Cup final of all time.
     
    2. I wasn't asleep in the 2006 Gerrard inspired Cup final win either.
     
    3. I wasn't asleep when Rafa put together Gerrard and Torres as perhaps the most deadly strike force in Europe at the time.
     
    4. Nobody could have been asleep in the two semi final victories over the plastics. When Luis Garcia scored the stadium erupted. I have never heard an atmosphere like that at ANY sports event.
     
    5. I wasn't asleep when we beat the Scum 4-1 in the same week as beating Real Madrid 4-0.
     
    6. I wasn't asleep when we drew 4-4 at Anfield with Arsenal. It certainly wasn't boring!
     
    7. I wasn't asleep when we were beating Juventus, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal, Internazionale, Milan etc in the Champions League
     
    8. I wasn't asleep when Rafa helped make Liverpool the number 1 ranked club in Europe by taking us to 2 Champions League finals in 3 years.
     
    If you really think this was 'terrribly defensive shite' then I suggest that you may be the one who needs his sanity checked............

  • Togs

    Let's face it the champions league win was a fluke it's not like we had the best team that year I enjoyed that one as much as anyone but it was a fluke. We beat west ham in that FA cup final now that was not a vintage win but I suppose you can only beat what's in front of you right. Hammering the mancs and real in the same week was great but as far as I remember we had already blown our chances in the league by then and were under far less pressure and therefore went on a good run. With the midfield players we had we should have done better. You prob mentioned all the highlights of Rafas time in charge and it's not like it's a lot as you have fitted it into 8 bullet points. And I can make up my own mind as to what I think of Rafa sky and British red tops do not do it for me. Ok you love Rafa great but to say to me just cause my opinion differs from a couple of you on here that the lads in sky sports tied me to a chair and beat me until I agreed with their logic on Rafa is utter rubbish. Like I said in my first post best of luck to the man but not at Liverpool.

  • Ed

    Just for posterity's sake, the win over United was part of a stretch that saw them close the gap to 1 point and hold there until the draw with Arsenal, and the 4-0 win over Real came after a narrow 1-0 win at the Bernabeu.
     

  • Togs

    Ya your spot on there Ed my mistake. But the point im trying to make without anymore petty bitching about Rafas pros and cons is that it would be a backward step for the club to bring him back. We all love a bit of nostalgia but we have had our fair share now with Kenny coming back. We should be looking at people like the guy at Dortmund Jurgen Kloop, he has done a great job there without huge amounts of money he's young and plays good football. Not saying his the guy but just an example of the talent out there. Man this Rafa thing is a nasty topic but differing opinions of him gives a clearer picture of his legacy.

  • Ed

    Right, not really wading into that, as I'd imagine our opinions differ, but just adding a bit of balance to it. Not intending to show you up or anything, so apologies if that's the way it came across.

  • Luis Suarez Dentist

    Did you really just use Sky and Logic in the same sentence????????

  • Ed

    Nope, there's not any sane people who read this blog.

  • Ryan

    Fine, I'll actually start reading what you guys post now. Just so you can have one sane person.  

    .....

    I can't get past the first paragraph. "99.3%popula*MINDBLOWN"

  • poorscouserbobby

    I disagree, I am the sanest of the lot.  Ok.  You're right there are no sane people who read this blog.

  • Red2death

    @#^).... &#&#.... &#@*RAFARAFA... %*#%@... ISTANBUL!

  • Ed

    This seems like an appropriate comment to generalize to the rest of our readership.

  • Luis Suarez Dentist

    I feel Rafa has unfinished business at Liverpool and have always hoped and wanted him to come back. Realistically thought, we can't expect him to wait around until he gets asked again. If Rafa does go to Chelsea then it gives them a great chance to get the two thinks Roman wants most - Champions League and a scoring Torres.
     
    What would be a lot better was if Rafa would just wait a bit longer and come back to Liverpool once King Kenny is done.
     
    Suarez when he plays for Uruguay has Forlan and Cavani linking with him playing one two's which is his natural game. When Suarez is at Liverpool he is either upfront with Carroll who does a 1, 2, 3, 4 before he even controls the ball (or falls over). Or he has Downing who never links the play and spends his time floating aimless balls into nowhere.
     
    Suarez would have a lot more goals if he had players up front with him who could link the play. The only other player we have at Liverpool who can consistently do that is Maxi. Just imagine how effective Suarez would be with a Silva, Juan Mata, Van Der Vaart or even a Mereilles linking with him.
     
    When Suarez looks around and sees a Carroll a Adam a Henderson and especially a Downing is it any wonder that he feels that he must do it all on his own?
     
    Which brings us back full circle to Rafa. When Rafa made mistakes and brought overpriced, useless Great British crap (Pennant, Keane) he was smart enough to realise this quickly and ship them out within a year. Lets hope that King Kenny has the sense to do this with CHAD.
     
    The problem is that it will be very difficult for King Kenny (and especially Comolli) to go to the board and say that they want to get rid of players purchased for a total of £70 - £80 million and then ask for funds to replace these players. The board would rightly ask a lot of questions................
     
    BUT it would be the best thing for Liverpool. We will never be where we want or should be whilst we have mediocrity like CHAD in our team or squad. King Kenny has to bite the bullet and do what is best for the club.

  • jpr

    No need for Comolli to make that phone call. Wherever we eventually finish the season, I'm sure Henry and Werner will be having a multi-day meeting with Damien and Kenny to Thoroughly evaluate all player personnel. These guys are not little leaguers. All of the difficult questions will most certainly be asked. I would expect CHAD will be at the top of that discussion list. All of the things we have discussed here will surely come up. We got an extra $15 mil or so from uncle Roman, so it's not so bad. Irregardless of transfer fee amount, even the most brilliant talent evaluators get it wrong about 50% of the time. Liverpool is a big club and you just never know how a player will adapt to the pressures. Etc., etc.

    Comolli's main responsibilities are scouting, evaluating talent, and getting in top quality , kick-ass players. I would think he has to "sign-off" on all acquisitions. Even where Kenny makes the initial choice. Kenny also manages, coaches, handles practices, organizes strategy and tactics, motivates, counsels, man-manages, etc., etc. I would expect Comolli and Kenny to be completely forthright and frank in their player assessments and analysis of future needs. Should be some very interesting meetings.

    Still 12 games left. A lot will depend on how these games go.

  • Tony

    Agree. You can see Suarez is frustrated by the company of his team. CHAD is out of his league. Don't be surprised he asks to leave......soon.

  • Red2death

    I share your sentiments that I'd wanted Rafa to take charge of Liverpool again if Kenny ever got the boot (not that I'm advocating for either situation).  It's clear his heart is in Liverpool, with him settling his whole family down in Wirral, support for Hillsborough, basing his family foundation in Liverpool, and only ever talking about one team with real pride.  I'm as surprised as anyone that he would even consider Chelsea.  But at the same time, he has a professional career to take care of and maybe he feels it'd just make sense to take the post for now, rather than wait indefinitely for Kenny to vacate.  

    Not that we've lost him though.  I think even if he takes the job, any time Liverpool need him back, he'd trade places in a heartbeat.  He'd let Chelsea know that.  Possibly even have a clause written into his contract.  As much as Suarez is only biding his time at Liverpool until Barca come knocking, Rafa would just be keeping himself busy at Chelsea until the LFC management decide they want him back.  

    Ball's in our court.  He'll be watching Kenny's situation very closely.  Not that he'd want Dalglish to fail though.  I'm sure if Rafa was ever re-appointed, Kenny would be an automatic member of his managerial team.  That would be nice.

    Oh, and as for CHAD, I don't think they're going anywhere this summer. Kenny evidently believes in the potential of the team he's building. Keeps saying the boys are playing well, and if can just convert some chances the situation would look a lot different. I'd say he has a point, arguably. But if they did leave and were replaced by the Silvas, Matas, Agueros and Hazards of the world, I really wouldn't be complaining either.

  • Luis Suarez Dentist

    I agree. The ideal situation for me would be at the end of the season for Rafa to take over and make Dalglish part of his managerial team. If we could also bring in Barnsey as an ambassador I would be as content as Andy Carroll during happy hour! 
     
    I think even if Rafa does take the plastics job he would still be welcome at Anfield. It's not like he is taking over at Manure or Everton! Chelsea repulse me with their money doping, moronic fairweather 'fans', Terry, Fat Frank and Cashley but they will never be a hated rival like Manure. It would also be nice to see Rafa jumping ship mid season to join us, maybe bringing back a reborn Torres? - guess I'm in fantasy land now lol!

  • Red2death

    Barnes as ambassador.  Rafa and Dalglish both in the bootroom.  Big Sami Hyppia back as a trainer.  Robbie Fowler in charge of the reserves.  Pep and Rodolfo back at the academy doing what they do best.  Dream team.  

  • very_Angry_Brand

    WTF, another Liverpool fans' idol join Chelsea...

  • VicCapeTown

    I bet he is. His golden handshakes from Liverpool and Milan have obviously run out.

  • CheekyFellow

    Is it lame of me to actually want to see Benitez step into Chelsea and get Torres back to scoring form? I just want to see if it was mostly a coaching thing the whole time. 

  • Red2death

    It's only ok if Torres starts terrorizing his favourite defence Man Utd.  

    Other than that, to see Benitez finally succeed because he has the right financial backing, and Torres scoring because he's in a system that actually knows how to use him, and all that in fact occurring in blue rather than red... would just be plain wrong.

  • CheekyFellow

    I guess man. I'm not looking at it from a loyalty standpoint, mostly from just the respect I had for him when he was at his best. His skill was killer at times and clinical. There aren't many forwards in the PL that I really enjoy watching anymore.

  • The only place I want to see Benitez at is at Liverpool's dugout, or out of England with any European team. Those are my aspirations. I really hope he comes back though.

  • Very_Angry_Brand

    Ya....me too, come on RAFA, please come back home!

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