Matchday: Liverpool v. Wigan

kenny, buy some fucking fresh players...PLEASeeeeee...for god sake man these guys wouldnt do well in the first division.....wake the fuck up liverpool you bunch a loosers

Now I know we have missed a lot of chances this season but lets not pretend this is all due to bad luck

All of the rest of the top 6 would expect to create chances against Norwich, Swansea, Wigan, Sunderland, Stoke and Fulham. The difference is that they are beating these sides.

I know i'm giving it a rest at the moment but what on earth has Downing contributed all season? Henderson has been neat and tidy and generally invisible. Adam has been inconsistent but isn't top 4 quality. Carroll is looking like a complete flop.

Sadly we need large investment but mainly in the areas where we have already wasted millions on the buy British policy.

Hey, look on the bright side. We've got all the backups we need and are only 5 top quality starters away from being in the top 4 again!

Ha ha think you have hit the nail bang on the head there!

Adam was okay today, Henderson was anything but invisible. Had a few of the first chances gone in, you would be heaping praise on both of them. Large investments aren't needed; we have a good squad that create chances.

You start out by saying that the top 6 would create chances which is correct, but you end with saying that we need "large investment." We need to finish chances, we don't need to buy new players.

Kuyt and Johnson are two players that we do not need to replace, and both of them could have easily won us that game with their two chances early in the game, one of them created by Downing. Which leads me to my next point:

Downing creates chances, but no one is finishing them. He provided a beautiful corner for Shelvey against Aston Villa which led to the opener. He is always stretching the defense and running hard.

Downing should be doing more than creating one chance every 2 games!

Question: Do you really think that Adam and Henderson would get anywhere near our Premier League runners up team a few years ago?

Which kinda makes me wish that instead of buying all these players who create chances, spend some of the money to buy just one player who finishes them. A proven finisher just like how we have proven chance makers.

We are so poor it's not funny. Well done Wigan And Matinez deserved draw.

We are something, all right. In a way it's kind of incredible that we've assembled a group of midfielders and attackers whose general level of play is so high, yet ability to score is so low. Bizarre.

That was very painful. The odd decent performance aside lets be honest. Henderson, Adam and especially Downing are not top 4 players let alone good enough for Liverpool players.

With Kuyt off form and Bellamy and Maxi rarely getting 90 minutes it's going to be a long hard 8 games without Suarez.

Still Liverpool should fight that verdic to the highest court in the land if needed.

I thought Henderson was brilliant. He ran miles, worked hard in defense, passed with accuracy and consistency. A good performance.

Adam and Downing, on the other hand...let's just say they don't inspire confidence in the future.

The problem with Henderson is I feel he spends a lot of time been busy not doing a lot. But he's young so maybe he will improve.

But Adam and especially Downing just are not good enough. Add Carroll to that list and that is a lot of money that has been spent for very little return.

I feel like dying. And no, I'm not being dramatic.

Yes, you are. lol

well... barely ;)

Into the wall then into the keeper. We're finishing sixth.

Yes, we are.

Where were we this time last year? We can improve.

I know, I know. Just frustrated at seeing the same shit over and over and OVER again. This is how every single fucking match since Sunderland has played out. Dominate, dominate, waste a penalty, come away with either 1 or 0 points. Very few exceptions so far and it's incredibly frustrating to see it happen yet again. Fourth is still a possibility, but just... NNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRAHHHHHHHHHH!!! You see what I'm saying?

I know what you're saying. Years of Liverpool failure has given me an incredible tolerance to losing.

Pass the fucking Eggnog. 

Enrique is so, so good!!

OK, 4 minutes!! Come on, dammit!!

I've said this many times before and I'll say it again. We should have grabbed that makeweight Sturridge when we had the chance. He's a finisher.

Who are Liverpool kidding? Do we seriously expect Carroll to get 5 minute runs and run into form. Either give him 30 minutes or sell him. I hope I'm proved wrong and he scores but I don't think so. 

Plenty of boos for Suarez coming off, eh? Fuck 'em.

What's Suarez done to Wigan? Seriously fans of opposing teams should just shut the fuck up with their disrespecting boos.

Is this actually happening?

Moses is making Downing look like a chump.

One thing I've noticed about our defense. Skrtel and Agger never get fooled by dummy runs by the strikers to make space for the man with the ball. Barcelona use this tactic to an extreme, pretty much everytime they are in the opponents half. They stand their ground and focus on the ball. No man-to-man marking. 

Getting outplayed now.

Enrique is amazing. Downing, not so amazing.

I may make a point a million times, but i'm seldom wrong.

Downing is never a Liverpool player.

Oh, no, all our players taking turns now giving it away...

Jordannnnnnnnn....

Well, I deserve credit for getting the on-subs right.

Good subs. Come on, we can win it still!!!

I can't be philosophical about this any more. This is becoming depressing. If we can't pinch this one, given results elsewhere, I can feel our Champions League chances slipping away.  

I trust in Comolli to bring reinforcements in January. We could do another late run like we did last year.

More players would be great. I just hope they don't let Kenny give any input as to who they will be.

Yeah, and have them sit their expensive arses on the bench watching this diabolical shit unfold like the rest of us. Ugh!

i've always maintained this team's time is the run in, the last 10 games.

But we need leaders to do the business,  make the right decisions that really creates danger.  At the mo, there's too many people who are ok, but don't change the game, sometimes miss the obvious pass, send it back or sideways.

We might be setup to pass and move, but we're not setup to finish.  we seem to have noone in on goal or a few bodies in near the goal and no one near the D to pick up the loose ball.

Adam was a disgrace today.  He's so determined to be the penalty taker and then takes the worst pen i've seen in a long time.

Very hungover about yesterday, and very bad after tonight.  5 points gone against fulham and wigan.  effin disgraceful.

2 summers of poor transfers decisions.

The problem with the run in scenario is that playing catch up is hard and you rely on other teams dropping points. Don't fancy it at all.

No obstruction call for Suarez. Bad refereeing.

Hey....you're stream is faster than mine. Tell me, do we score in the next 15 seconds?

lol, sorry!!

I don't care if you guys say Kuyt is putting them on target, or whatever. He's got goals in him. Today. 

Good work by Downing! Let's raise the pressure.

Seriously, we'd be close to top if we could finish

There was the good side of Adam.

I'm having a very hard time maintaining my composure right now

Bellamy warming up! Here comes some swagger.

Run, Downing, run!! There you go.

Alright lads. 

--------------Reina-----------
Johnson--Skrtel--Agger-Enrique
------------Hendo-Adam------
-Bellamy-----Shelvey----Maxi-
----------------Kuyt-----------

2 swaps with 1 left for injury. Suarez and Downing off. 

One day, we will have a good midfield again. One day...for now, we just need Bellamy to come on for Kuyt or Maxi.

I concur, need Bellamy NOW

I would much rather see Aston Villa be relegation threatened then Wigan Athletic. They seem to have some good players, amongst a bunch of duds. And their manager doesn't seem to be an idiot. They don't look 19th place bad. If they just had some financial backing to get some young quality, like some good midfielders to play along McCarthy, who knows where they go be?

Sweet move until Kuyt's brain fart.

"Everything's going wrong for the OHHHH-uguyan!" Shut your stupid fucking mouth, you grotesque stupid cunt of a man.

hahahah the commentator just called Suarez a "Errr-You-Guayan". Says a lot about his intelligence

I can hear Ed grinding his teeth all the way over here.

I've got none left at this point. Charlie Adam ruined them.

He doesn't want to be the only one with bad teeth.

This ridiculous commentating isn't helping matters. All we need is a goal to shut them the FUCK up. 

Ugh..am I the one having problem with streams? Haven't been able to watch since the first minute, and after 60 minutes all I'm doing is refreshing the streams over and over and all I got is a blank screen. Fuck, I just wasted my sleeping time. Well anyway, I hope we win today YNWA. Good night guys.

streams totally screwed tonight.  T'internet tooooooo busy with so many games on at once.  Even reliable but grainy sopcast was poor tonite.

but then, so was our game.

No goals.   It's costing us badly, and is in danger of filling the team with doubt.

Adam - the worst pen I've seen?  He needs to justify his place.

If we're going to dominate possession, we may aswell have Carroll up front to try and take chances.  There's no point in bringing him on with 5 mins to go.

sell him if you're gonna do that.

It seems like we really really like to buy flops, ever since Benitez and now Dalglish. Yes, I'm calling them flops right now cause it has been close to January and their performance are not convincing at all. It's sad really. Why can't we manage our transfer a lot better, the money is already there, please don't waste it. Yes, one could argue that it is hard to attract top players without CL prospect but surely we can do better than what we have right now. It's sad that with what we have spent we are still not better than what we are last season.

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I don't care if Gerrard can't walk from now on I want him on the bench every week to be stretchered on in case we get a penalty.

Absent Gerrard, Dirk Kuyt is our best penalty taker.

Shelvey for Adam, please. Probably won't happen because it would show Dalglish's disappointment in Adam, somehow, and he's probably not disappointed. But Shelvey knows where the goal is, Blackpool knows it. 

Adam is undroppable for Dalglish. We just got to hope he picks it up.

I think I've seen enough mediocre ex-Blackpool players in my time without another cropping up. ;)

Bellamy needs to come on. Need to spook and get around them with more pace

Adam, why do I bother with you?

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

why do we suck at PKs???

we just suck at shooting of every kind, dammit

oh what the fucking hell. 

At least that was a fancy handball, right?

Suarez is probably second only to Blatter as the most vilified figure in football.

Adam you fucking cuntwankshitbag.

PENALTY! Let's not fuck this one up, boys.

And we fucked that one up, boys.

free kick was "far from accurate" - this commentator is a fuckwit. The keeper had to tip it over. I'm sick of this negative mindset against Suarez.

SUAREZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... damn "he got the dip, but... far from accurate, really!" I'm seriously starting to dislike Englishmen. Ironic given the whole anti-racism backdrop of this match. 

quote the commentator "not an accurate free kick from Suarez at all really".
....... it was on target you mug. That IS accurate.

Good pressure on the ball by Adam. (Did you like that, Gadsby? :)

very good indeed. I think Adam's a great player, we just need to sort out our DM situation so we can get him in the right position.

And right on time, a nice through ball from him...and a penalty!!

And btw, I agree that he should take it.

lol, and that's we get

In Villa game Adam did not take any corners, Liverpool scored twice from corners. I guess Ferguson suggest a player that just from corner itself worth 10 million did not live up to that.
We are very casual in the middle area at time, Wigan rob our ball off easily from our DMs, very worring.
Com'on Liverpool.

OK, time to win the game, right here!! It only takes one goal.

Anyone wishing to complain about Adam's workrate as of half time nobody else on the pitch has covered as much ground... just saying

Over the last 10 years we have been spoilt. Lucas, Gerrard, Alonso, Masc, Hamann, even Momo before his injury.

I'm trying to stay positive about Henderson and Adam but it's difficult.

Come on Liverpool
Luis Suarez - YNWA

Damien will bring someone in in January, I wouldn't be too concerned.

not sure that excites me too much.  In theory , our squad was complete.

We're now missing an influential DM and a goalscorer and sooooo many doubts about Downing.  Even suarez wasn't going for the jugular tonight.  He's trying to play others in but they aren't good enough for him and his passing is off.

I am bullish on Henderson, and I like what he's shown today again. In the early season I despised his weakness in the tackle and lack of physicality and athleticism overall, but I have come to respect his ability to keep the ball moving and play clever touches with his teammates. He is good!

NO WE DONT WANT MANCHESTER UNITED HIGHLIGHTS DAMNIT!