Apparently cheaters do win
By: Brian | May 23rd, 2007Nice handball. Go pay off a ref. Cheers.
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Liverpool got screwed. Inzaghi’s first goal was definitely a handball.
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Upset?
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Not at all. I have a conscious.
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And the second goal was some of the worst defending I’ve ever seen in Europe. All three Liverpool defenders in the area completely gave up once Inzaghi got past them. No way does that ball trickle through if even one of them bothers to run back and defend.
PS … Liverpool … Champions League … goal that shouldn’t have counted … something vaguely familiar about those phrases in the same sentence?
Point is, neither side was particularly special today.
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Yeah, the second goal for Milan was without a doubt legit, but would our defenders been playing so advanced had it been 0-0?
It doesn’t matter, everyone knows the cheaters cheated once again. Not very surprising. I was hoping this game would be controversy free, but it was not. The first goal should not have counted and if we would have had a neutral ref, I doubt it would have. Doesn’t matter. Congrats, Milan.
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A very weak first goal for Milan. Not sure it should have counted. But I would have liked to see LFC create a few more chances for goodness’ sake. And giving Crouch only 12 minutes to work was silly.
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That was embarrassing. It’s bad enough a team that cheated so much they got caught and punished in Italy of all places gets to PLAY in the tournament, but then to have that horrible, ugly, cheating style (combining the fan-friendly 9-0-1 tactic with the defensive strategy of trying to break the Liverpool player legs), and the very “fair” calls (yellow card for Liverpool, nothing at all for the same plays when Milan does them) and allowing crap like Gattuso’s cheap shots to go unpunished is too much. Nice call to ignore Liverpool trying to sub in their offensive player for five minutes, as well.
Total fraud. I’m sure in 3 years when an investigation finds Milan paid off people to get favorable calls, nothing will happen and Milan will get rewarded with another free pass into Big Cup.
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I don’t hear too many other scouse fans moaning about the alleged “handball” – looked liked it just hit him, and he didn’t know too much about it. Ball to hand? (shoulder?). Oh well, such is the cruelty of defeat.
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Nick, what fantasy land are you living in? Liverpool being down 1-0 changed everything. It was a handball, not ball to hand. He made an intentional motion with his arm. It should have not counted. I just don’t get how any fan, Milan, Man U, LFC, or any other club can be content with this result. It was complete bullshit. Call off the goal and let a team earn it. If Milan is so sad that they’ll take a win like this, then so be it, but they weren’t the better team today and they had to cheat to win.
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Wait. While I agree with Clint that Milan shouldn’t have been in the tournament to begin with, they didn’t cheat to win the game itself.
Or at least no more than any team would have: You’re saying that an LFC player would have said “oh no, I’m sorry, that wasn’t a goal because I touched it with my arm before it went in”??? I have some great real estate for you…
LFC should have won the game, but they finished like crap and that’s that. Their fault. You can’t blame the refs because the refs were crap going both ways. The first two yellow cards were against Milan, remember, and while I disagree with the card for Mascherano (and don’t rightly remember if the one for Carragher was good or not), I didn’t see any absurd bias. There’s always going to be some “bias” because some refs tend to call games a certain way and some teams play in a way that benefits them and others play in a way that is detrimental.
That said, Gattuso was nutso out there and could easily have been sent off. I never did get a feel for how the ref was calling the game because it seemed that every time anyone went up for a 50/50 ball, there was a “foul”…especially if Kuyt was involved. And thanks to the no-replay-of-anything-important policy that ESPN2 had going on, I never got to see things close up to determine what had happened.
It was a decent enough game, really. Tough for an LFC fan, I’m sure, but sour grapes never helped anyone get over defeats.
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Oh, BS Brian. If Liverpool had opened the scoring that way, you’d have taken it. Of course Milan will “take a win like this.” I’m pretty convinced that any team, even Liverpool, would.
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Funny how Rafa and the rest of the squad didn’t complain about the goal though, they have clearer view on that than most viewers/spectators. Must have been legit.
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Yeah, I have to agree. Football at the pro level is about winning, and any player or coach in the world that wouldn’t take an ugly (or questionable) win shouldn’t be in the game, because their opponents sure would. Every single member of the Liverpool club would be happy to walk away with a 2-1 victory that started with a controversial goal from their own striker. I’m okay with arguing the validity of the goal – if we can’t do that, what’s the point? But when it comes to Milan being sad because they’ll accept the win, you’re kidding yourself, mate.
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I don’t think Milan cheated. Pirlo kicked the ball and I doubt Inzaghi had much time to react and he certainly did not intend to make contact. He doesn’t move his arms towards the ball. It was a fluke goal nothing more.
Maybe Milan were not the better team, but they won the game and that is what matters.
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No one cheated. The ref was a German! They call games like crap! I was backing Liverpool to the very end (this was due to my love for the song “you’ll never walk alone” and that am a huge Inter fan since am 7). You couldn’t call the 1st pippo goal against Milan. No one really knew what happen until the ball was in the back of the net.
Giving Crouch such little time to make a difference was stupid. I think he needed an entire half. He played good for the little time he was out there though. Seeing Harry K. on the field was a nice sight.
AC won the final?! Ok… I’ll try to believe it. Cheers to them! Am not sour. This year was just their year in the UCL. Whatever. Just know AC (Fags) Fans that you all were out played for the entire game!
pce
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Liverpool DID get screwed
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It doesn’t matter whether handballs are intentional, refs sometimes let them go if they’re not and don’t have a critical impact, but that wasn’t the case here. The ball bounced off his arm and went in, that’s a handball and not a goal. I’ve seen a handball called after a dangerous tackle (foul given) when the player landed on the ball with no chance to avoid it.
I didn’t fault Milan last night. They did what they had to do, certainly weren’t as dirty as predicted–or compared to most teams in the last weeks of League play. They went down a bit easy, but not a diving frenzy.
The discussion of Liverpool’s weaknesses — finishing mostly, substitutions can be debated endlessly after any loss, and did Gerrard rise to his world class billing, etc — are well taken, but they wouldn’t have lost that match. Milan showed up but Liverpool were the better team on the night. I don’t usually complain about referees — teams benefit from the good calls as much as suffer from the bad over a season, with exceptions here and there — but this match was a big exception. One in which the 12th man on the pitch changed the course farcically, to the point where we actually started to laugh, except that I felt bad (and a little embarrassed) for my kids to be watching.
Not just the handball: every time Kuyt went for the ball up a foul was called — on him, kind of hinders the lone striker; calls throughout so heavily weighted against LFC became a joke, Carra’s card for no contact was being only one example; never heard of a substitution request ignored for over five minutes (out of 15? left) THAT was painful; and no, calling a match that important with a minute left is not fair play on the part of the ref.
In the end, I’m very happy that Kuyt scored for his dad, LFC played a good game and did not “let the fans down,” I’m not devastated about my team’s performance the morning after, and sh*t happens…
I even liked the re-instituted lining up of winning team to show respect for players on their way to pick up second place medals. Although, given a choice, I would have preferred UEFA provide practical support for sportsmanship, rather than the bit of show.
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